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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2012-04-30, 11:01:41
gary_young9@sky.com from United Kingdom  
Check out the links below they make a refreshing change

http://www.eecl.org..cam.shtml

http://news.bbc.co...887493.stm
2012-04-30, 21:22:46
wanwan from Japan  
http://www.romanc. 6&t=33378

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ekaterinrinaekaterinalove@yahoo.com


see it
2012-04-30, 21:27:01
wanwan from Japan  
http://anti-scam.de..294701223

https://www.facebook.com/note.? note_id=10150376043330142

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katyakatyalovee@ye@yahoo.com


see it
2012-05-01, 19:39:12   (updated: 2012-05-01, 19:43:15)
anonymous  
ekaterina guryanova
ekaterinaekaterinalove@yahoo.com
blonde,blue eyes,sweet and a real scammer....post everything you got about her here...she is a lier and and tiefh,she plays with fellings and she always ask fr money,dangerouse and agressive,and real woman reported
http://anti-scam.de..1322774741
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2012-05-02, 04:57:09   (updated: 2012-05-02, 05:00:22)
anonymous from Australia  
A couple of months ago I was contacted by this woman 'Sophia' Most of her emails were rambling minor personal stuff Family, favourite food etc. She did keep going on about having a relationship and even though she didn't get to the point of asking for money I felt very suspicious when she failed to answer any of my particular questions.
I'm interested in knowing if anybody else has had any experience of her.
Her email address to me was 'sweetsophia565@yahoo.com.


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2012-05-06, 20:04:01
wanwan from Japan  
Hey my boys and girls !
Please help us.

A Japanese guy are being scammed by Russian scammer.
He already paid money to Him.

I ask you.
Do you have some infos on this tour agency in Russia ?

This travel agency is a Russian scammer or not ?

We need infos on this agency.

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115054. Bakhrushina Street 23/5. info@atistours.com.


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Thank you !

http://www.atistour..ode/home/




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2012-05-06, 23:10:23
anonymous from United States  
I met Victoriya Nashina on Russian cupid. After we know each other for three month, she told me to visit me. Then, she said'I would like to visit you but I do not have money. So, can you send me money through travel agency?' This travel agency is called Atis-tour travel agency.
I paid money for airplane tickets. After that, she told me to pay money for custom control.
For this reason, she got in trouble in airport and had to pay $1300. Then, she said to me 'Please Please help me. Do not throw me. Please put money on my account. Please send me money through financial manager of travel agency' So, I paid money for her through travel agency.
After that, she told me that she would visit me on 5th of May but she did not show up.
After that, I noticed that it was fraud.

Do you know her? I mean have you ever had any experience of her?
2012-05-06, 23:11:25
anonymous from United States  
I met Victoriya Nashina on Russian cupid. After we know each other for three month, she told me to visit me. Then, she said'I would like to visit you but I do not have money. So, can you send me money through travel agency?' This travel agency is called Atis-tour travel agency.
I paid money for airplane tickets. After that, she told me to pay money for custom control.
For this reason, she got in trouble in airport and had to pay $1300. Then, she said to me 'Please Please help me. Do not throw me. Please put money on my account. Please send me money through financial manager of travel agency' So, I paid money for her through travel agency.
After that, she told me that she would visit me on 5th of May but she did not show up.
After that, I noticed that it was fraud.

Do you know her? I mean have you ever had any experience of her?


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2012-05-07, 00:48:08
anonymous  
2012-05-06, 23:11:25 anonymous from United States - Do you know her? I mean have you ever had any experience of her? >>>

Here's a scam report on the following links ...

For Russian Cupid - yuta
2012/05/07 (Mon) 03:05:11
Nice to meet you, is yuta. Why Russian cupid is a fraud.
I've met some Russian women through the Russian cupid.
Is said to want out of the cost of a plane ticket to her, was to send money through Western Union would. That remittances place is a place called Atis-Tours Travel Agency. It is said that to manage the money of all the financial manager in travel company. ( Http://Www.Atistours.Com/en/node/home/ this) is a travel site.

Then, her flight schedule has been sent. However, I was told this time, for her to pass through the custom control, and bank the $ 1,500 cost must prove your stay. And I send money to their travel company in accordance with her ​​instructions. Day, I went to meet you at the airport, she did not come.
This is, what a travel company and her crime was in cahoots. Please tell me.
2012-05-07, 07:05:08
anonymous  
WanWan.....she is a scammer...

question...
you have more infor recent about ekaterinaekaterinalove@yahoo.com?

letters and pics to prove the scamm?
2012-05-07, 12:32:54
OJAS from United States  
2012-05-16, 13:02:28
anonymous  
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Me comunico com uma menina há exatamente 40 dias ela ainda não me pediu nada, e diz que quer ficar comigo...e que vira ao meu encontro, nem que para isto precise vender tudo e pedir emprestimos. o seu nome é Anna seu e-mail é( tsaranna@ymail.com) um trecho do e-mail que ela me enviou ''Perdoe, que eu não posso escrever mais. Para nos em poucas instalações de um envenenamento. Eu preciso esta no trabalho. mas logo que voltar e responder todas as perguntas. Perdoe Carlos, Anna'' Resultado eu já visitei vários sites, já vi milhares de fotos e não à encontrei em nenhum deles. será que ela é um scammer. ela esta vindo por conta própria para me encontra no início do mês? o pior é que gostei dela! o que faço?
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2012-05-16, 13:02:46
anonymous  
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Me comunico com uma menina há exatamente 40 dias ela ainda não me pediu nada, e diz que quer ficar comigo...e que vira ao meu encontro, nem que para isto precise vender tudo e pedir emprestimos. o seu nome é Anna seu e-mail é( tsaranna@ymail.com) um trecho do e-mail que ela me enviou ''Perdoe, que eu não posso escrever mais. Para nos em poucas instalações de um envenenamento. Eu preciso esta no trabalho. mas logo que voltar e responder todas as perguntas. Perdoe Carlos, Anna'' Resultado eu já visitei vários sites, já vi milhares de fotos e não à encontrei em nenhum deles. será que ela é um scammer. ela esta vindo por conta própria para me encontra no início do mês? o pior é que gostei dela! o que faço?
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2012-05-18, 08:00:56
anonymous from Kenya  
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Please help me out.I have been exchanging mails with this a russian chik. She say her name is Anna poufinova. I smelling some cat and its quite possible that the chik is out to con me.Find more about her.


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2012-05-18, 12:26:20
OJAS from United States  
2012-05-18, 08:00:56 anonymous from Kenya,
jambo! abargani? :-)

scammer uses stolen pix of Pashkeeva. Search her name at the top of this page. Keep your wallet in a safe place, return here for more discussions, Western Union can wait!
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